Agent00R submitted on 9/14/2011 Official Bell & Ross Timestamp: 5:49:11 AM
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One of the cars that initially received a lot of attention was Toyota and Subaru's joint project car, the FT86, -- on Subaru's side it's known as the BRZ. But with Toyota we've seen several concepts now, and it's even been shown as a Scion.So, what exactly is going on here? We don't know. Toyota likely is trying to gauge the show's interest in the specific concepts and is monitoring sentiment. I bet that's what's going to guide the design and final outcome of the FT86 project.For example, I don't think many took too kindly to Toyota releasing the vehicle as a Scion. That's not because Scion couldn't do it, but because the brand likely would dub the concept down so much since the accounting department would get involved. Toyota, on the other hand, has the ability to price the car higher in the market and also has the lineage to back up a sports car of this caliber.Taking all of this into consideration, is THIS FT iteration the most aggressive and what you'd be looking for in a production vehicle?Stay tuned to AutoSpies.com for MORE photosWith AutoSpies.com it's like you're there!Frankfurt Motor Show GalleryFrankfurt Motor Show GalleryFull Leaked Frankfurt Motor Show Guide Photo GalleryJaguar C-X16 Concept Photo GalleryFrankfurt Motor Show Preview Photo Gallery2012 BMW 6-Series Coupe M-Sport and Z4 2.8i Photo GalleryAston Martin Zagato V12 Photo Gallery2012 Jeep Wrangler PentaStar Photo Gallery2012 Toyota Camry Photo GalleryAutoSpies.com Photo GalleriesIf you want to see your photos running on our homepage photo ticker, be sure to upload your photos on the go by sending them to Mobile@AutoSpies.com Share on Facebook
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"There are two opinions in this world. Mine and the wrong one." -- Jeremy Clarkson— Agent00R (View Profile)
"There are two opinions in this world. Mine and the wrong one." -- Jeremy Clarkson
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very promising. just nees a good engine and nimble handling— freeagent (View Profile)
very promising. just nees a good engine and nimble handling
— freeagent (View Profile)
Posted on 9/14/2011 7:23:25 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3
Has more lights than an ambalamps(ambulance).— alpha_q2 (View Profile)
Has more lights than an ambalamps(ambulance).
— alpha_q2 (View Profile)
Posted on 9/14/2011 7:50:46 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
Rear end is nice and aggressive, IMHO! I can live without some of the Dr. Fu Manchu front end styling though. Not saying it's bad, just needs to be more streamlined, tweaked, if you will, ala Supra! Side profile is great! I see some Aston DB in there! And it would be nice if this thing handles great and matches up performance wise with the GT-R! I can dream, can't I?— internationalmanofmystery (View Profile)
Rear end is nice and aggressive, IMHO! I can live without some of the Dr. Fu Manchu front end styling though. Not saying it's bad, just needs to be more streamlined, tweaked, if you will, ala Supra! Side profile is great! I see some Aston DB in there! And it would be nice if this thing handles great and matches up performance wise with the GT-R! I can dream, can't I?
— internationalmanofmystery (View Profile)
Posted on 9/14/2011 8:25:49 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
Wow is this really a Toyota?— monster (View Profile)
Wow is this really a Toyota?
— monster (View Profile)
Posted on 9/14/2011 8:58:56 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 3
Looks really good. Just wonder which version Toyota is going with since they've shown us about 3 or 4 so far. Interested to see what they did with the interior. And of course pricing. If relatively quick and agile and decent interior for low $20K-mid $20K, Toyota has a hit on it's hands. About time they build something that actually has excitement in the brand. The last car that did was the Supra and they stopped production on that cars years ago and was getting too expensive even then that it was no for the masses. Now the masses can have style and afford it!— autobroker (View Profile)
Looks really good. Just wonder which version Toyota is going with since they've shown us about 3 or 4 so far. Interested to see what they did with the interior. And of course pricing. If relatively quick and agile and decent interior for low $20K-mid $20K, Toyota has a hit on it's hands. About time they build something that actually has excitement in the brand. The last car that did was the Supra and they stopped production on that cars years ago and was getting too expensive even then that it was no for the masses. Now the masses can have style and afford it!
— autobroker (View Profile)
Posted on 9/14/2011 9:30:00 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1
I wish it comes out looking like this :)— Joe_Limon (View Profile)
I wish it comes out looking like this :)
— Joe_Limon (View Profile)
Posted on 9/14/2011 10:01:33 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
Is this the new Celica?— JustaCar (View Profile)
Is this the new Celica?
— JustaCar (View Profile)
Posted on 9/14/2011 10:25:11 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1
I can't wait for this come out, if it ever does, crossing my fingers though. I know what I'm using my college grad discount on :)— Arsen89 (View Profile)
I can't wait for this come out, if it ever does, crossing my fingers though. I know what I'm using my college grad discount on :)
— Arsen89 (View Profile)
Posted on 9/14/2011 10:33:45 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1
Very nice, If it performs as good as a 370z I might have to get one. But knowing Toyota, they'll dumb it down, give it about 170hp, and make it a really good looking scionTC replacement.— LexSucks (View Profile)
Very nice, If it performs as good as a 370z I might have to get one. But knowing Toyota, they'll dumb it down, give it about 170hp, and make it a really good looking scionTC replacement.
— LexSucks (View Profile)
Posted on 9/14/2011 11:41:29 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: -2
What kind of engine will it have? And those numbers you psoted aren't anything special.— LexSucks (View Profile)
What kind of engine will it have? And those numbers you psoted aren't anything special.
Posted on 9/14/2011 2:19:56 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -6
A 2.0 liter subaru boxer engine, which normally makes 150hp, will be brought up a little due to Toyota intake revisions. I'm guessing 165hp, bd is a little optimistic.— Joe_Limon (View Profile)
A 2.0 liter subaru boxer engine, which normally makes 150hp, will be brought up a little due to Toyota intake revisions. I'm guessing 165hp, bd is a little optimistic.
Posted on 9/14/2011 3:08:16 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -1
165hp? What is this? 1990? LOL!!! ScionTC replacement. LOL!!! I was expecting a 370z competitor.— LexSucks (View Profile)
165hp? What is this? 1990? LOL!!! ScionTC replacement. LOL!!! I was expecting a 370z competitor.
Posted on 9/14/2011 3:17:46 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -7
BD is Toyota's injection system really going to boost power output 33%? 10% increase maybe...— Joe_Limon (View Profile)
BD is Toyota's injection system really going to boost power output 33%? 10% increase maybe...
Posted on 9/14/2011 4:08:53 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1
A few things, Toyota is trying to maximize the engines fuel economy and lower emissions, not to increase performance. Also, the Celica model you mentioned wasn't a "base" model.http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/04/toyota-backs-off-ft-86-price-point-youth-appeal-goals/"Sadly though, the price shift reflects larger trends within the FT-86's development, none of which are wildly promising from the perspective of the enthusiasts that this car was allegedly being built for."..."[The FT-86's] R&D team is now more focused on minimizing fuel consumption and producing the cleanest engine possible"— Joe_Limon (View Profile)
A few things, Toyota is trying to maximize the engines fuel economy and lower emissions, not to increase performance. Also, the Celica model you mentioned wasn't a "base" model.http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/04/toyota-backs-off-ft-86-price-point-youth-appeal-goals/"Sadly though, the price shift reflects larger trends within the FT-86's development, none of which are wildly promising from the perspective of the enthusiasts that this car was allegedly being built for."..."[The FT-86's] R&D team is now more focused on minimizing fuel consumption and producing the cleanest engine possible"
Posted on 9/15/2011 12:04:35 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0
Looks great, MT/RWD will do but should have a MT/AWD option.— topneuro (View Profile)
Looks great, MT/RWD will do but should have a MT/AWD option.
— topneuro (View Profile)
Posted on 9/14/2011 1:03:41 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
"Toyota builds the worlds best handling production vehicles second to none,"- 100% pure fanboy drivel. And the Matrix out handles the Honda Civic Si? Please put down the Toyota Crackpipe. And what does the Avalon out handle? LOL!! Toyotas are not known for handling and performance. I guess if you're a dumb American you'll believe everything you seen in an advertisement (and throw a little false pride in there). Toyota fans are the worst and also the dumbest. — LexSucks (View Profile)
"Toyota builds the worlds best handling production vehicles second to none,"- 100% pure fanboy drivel. And the Matrix out handles the Honda Civic Si? Please put down the Toyota Crackpipe. And what does the Avalon out handle? LOL!! Toyotas are not known for handling and performance. I guess if you're a dumb American you'll believe everything you seen in an advertisement (and throw a little false pride in there). Toyota fans are the worst and also the dumbest.
Posted on 9/14/2011 2:27:52 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: -6
This will be great for shoveling the snow in my driveway during the winter months!— kpaxx (View Profile)
This will be great for shoveling the snow in my driveway during the winter months!
— kpaxx (View Profile)
Posted on 9/14/2011 1:49:53 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 0
Like I said earlier: it looks so much faster than it will be. I love the design, but it's worthy of 500hp. With a 2-liter four this is a complete rice rocket straight from the factory. I'd rather have a tC to avoid looking like a complete poseur. I say Toyota should drop the IS-F V8 in it before it's too late.— FromThePassengerSeat (View Profile)
Like I said earlier: it looks so much faster than it will be. I love the design, but it's worthy of 500hp. With a 2-liter four this is a complete rice rocket straight from the factory. I'd rather have a tC to avoid looking like a complete poseur. I say Toyota should drop the IS-F V8 in it before it's too late.
— FromThePassengerSeat (View Profile)
Posted on 9/14/2011 9:31:01 PM | reply to this comment | Votes: 1
Did Toyota Bedazzle the front end of this car?— MorePower (View Profile)
Did Toyota Bedazzle the front end of this car?
— MorePower (View Profile)
Posted on 9/15/2011 2:06:08 AM | reply to this comment | Votes: 2
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